Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Obama gets Bitten; Wright in the Arse

Until now, I have dismissed this Pastor Wright controversy until I read this:

For the past few days the national spotlight has been on Jeremiah Wright, pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ and Obama's so-called spiritual mentor, who turns out to be a certifiable America-hating crackpot.

Could Obama really have been unaware for all these years that his spiritual mentor follows a racially adversarial theology, one that demands of God that he be "for us and against white people" and that he participate "in the destruction of the white enemy"? It doesn't exactly sound like the sort of change we can believe in.

...Obama claims that Wright "has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor." In fact, as Bloomberg reports, Wright served on an advisory committee for the Obama campaign, from which he was forced to resign Friday.

Why does Obama feel it necessary to resort to these lawyerly--dare we say Clintonesque--evasions? ...Why can't he simply speak from the heart and tell us what he really thinks of black liberation theology? Two possibilities come to mind, both of which may be true.

One is that Obama's condemnation and rejection of Wright's appalling statements is not sincere.

...the second possible reason he hasn't done so: that it may entail a political cost as well. After all, it's not as if the malevolent minister is preaching to empty pews. There is a segment of the black community that embraces Wright-style bigotry...

The Audacity of Hate?


jkruse said...

I think you're on to something. Obama condemned Wright's bigotry and removed him from his panel of campaign advisers. Pretty weak tea.

He would have been better suited to follow the McCain model. McCain recently sought, and received, the endorsement of John Hagee.

Catholics are "the great whore" John Hagee.

Jews brought centuries of persecution upon themselves by rebelling against God, John Hagee.

Katrina was God's punishment for homosexuality in New Orleans, John Hagee.

Adolf Hitler was an anti-Semite because he was educated in a Catholic school, John Hagee.

That's a lot of repulsive commentary from somebody who John McCain describes as an ally. Luckily he handled it in the no-nonsense, straight talking way that only McCain is capable of. He assured us that Hagee's words were taken out of context. It's refreshing to see that Republican candidates for office never sully their good names by sucking up to bigots.

jroosh said...

Good stuff Krusey.

Two things though, one is valid, one is questionably valid.

Number One, nobody seems to care about McCain's relationship if we use the media as a judge. Validity, questionable.

Number Two, and this is the valid point I think, is that McCain has a long and consistent record of fiscal conservatism, i.e. he has accomplishments. We know who he is and what he's done.

In the case of Obama, he is vulnerable to this stuff because nobody knows what he really believes. He has no record. He has no accomplishments.

We do know one thing though. He will try to increase taxes and spend more of our money. Money that as a country we no longer have.

Bike Bubba said...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know that McCain has been a member of Hagee's church for 20 years, has he?

More's a-comin' on Wright, BTW. It's not just 3 minutes from two sermons, but rather a fairly consistent pattern. MoveOn.org from the pulpit--if I EVER see that in my church, I hope there will be a confrontation.

jkruse said...

Bubba - you've hit the nail on the head.

Obama's been a member of that church for a long time. The types of sentiments expressed there are not atypical of what you might find at any black church. Believe it or not, some Americans are angry. But you'd be very wrong to think that those 3 minutes, or 5 minutes, or whatever, are the only things those congregates talk about. Like most church goers, I suspect Obama finds things in the sermons that appeal to him, and things that don't. I also doubt that's any different than many church goers. (Myself included) Let's not detail ugly words and deeds that emanate from other religious organizations, OK?

So, given that part of his culture and heritage, he invites the pastor to participate in his campaign in some way. Maybe that was a mistake.

Explain to me, though, how it's worse than McCain courting the support of Hagee, whose ugly words are public record. (Or going to speak at Bob Jones U) McCain has no cultural ties to this man.

I've not seen Obama's speech today, but I see that he says, "Rev. Wright is family to me." John Hagee is votes for John McCain.

Roosh - I don't think I have to address your point about media determining validity. You pretty well admit that's a B.S. argument.

If you're worried about tax increases wiping out our economy, I'll refer you back to your plot from yesterday. I think it speaks for itself, but you're free to disagree. Just don't muddle up the issue with some conspiracy theory about how Obama's just trying to get elected so he can stick it to Whitey.

jroosh said...

Explain to me, though, how it's worse than McCain courting the support of Hagee, whose ugly words are public record. (Or going to speak at Bob Jones U) McCain has no cultural ties to this man.

It's worse because based on his record, we know nothing about Obama's beliefs. It is a vacuum that this Wright deal is filling.

McCain has a clear record which is why his "church controversy" is garnering no attention.

jkruse said...

we know nothing about Obama's beliefs.

C'mon, man. It's like you're not even trying. I wonder if there's someway we could find out something about Obama's record. I once heard President Bush talk about looking up stuff, "on the google." Let's try it:

He completed his Harvard Law degree magna cum laude.

He directed a successful voter registration drive in Chicago's inner city.

As a state senator he gained bipartisan support for reforming ethics and health care laws, sponsored a law enhancing tax redits for low income workers, negotiated welfare reform, promoted increased subsidies for child care, legislated the mandatory videotaping of homicide interrogations and monitoring of racial profiling...

That's only up to 2004.

It's really not hard.

Bike Bubba said...

jkruse, when there are lots of black churches that are NOT openly racist from the pulpit and the church website (I've been in some of them) , I think Obama's 20 year membership there speaks a LOT louder than a candidate speaking at "Yearly Kos" or BJU under the common knowledge that speaking at a place doesn't imply endorsement of everything they say.

I'm sorry, but this is flat out obnoxious. If a GOP candidate had been a member of a church that spoke constantly of the "white" experience, he'd never make it to the first primary unless he were running against Edwin Edwards.

The Democrats need to take a lesson here.